- Spider-Man
- The Incredible Hulk
- Captain America
- The Thing
- Iron Man
- Wolverine
- Silver Surfer
- Sub-Mariner
- Spider-Woman
- Elektra
Ok, Spider-Man is a no brainer. Arguably the most recognized hero on the planet, he makes sense. Almost the same deal for the Hulk (cue sappy sad music as you're walking away from the camera trying to hitch a ride). He's had a TV Show, a movie and a couple of animated cartoons as well as a video game or two. Captain America is an American icon, how could you not include him? The guy was fighting the Nazis in the 40s, he's the personification of all that makes the American Dream something great.
Now after that some of choices seem a little odd. The Thing? Sure, he's probably the most famous member of the Fantastic Four, but I would argue the Fantastic Four as a team is more popular. It would be like having a tribute to Davy Jones versus The Monkees (and here's where half the people reading this suddenly say "Who?" to both of those). Then we have Iron Man. Not exactly a house hold name, but he does have a movie in the works, so maybe they're trying to drum up support for that by making him appear to be a player. As for heroic, he's the billionare CEO of a corporation that makes military weapons. Next up there's Wolverine. Easily one of the most popular characters Marvel has, so you can see why he's there, but at the same time, not the best role model. This guy has probably killed more people than some of the so called supervillians he tries to stop.
From here the list gets even weirder and more obscure. There's the Silver Surfer. Sure, he appeared in an animated episode of the Fantastic Four back in the 60s, and he had an incredibly short lived animated show in the late nineties. However, he's not exactly a mainstream name. And let's see his backstory. Before he showed up on Earth he was the lackey of Galactus. You know Galactus, he's the guy nicknamed the "Devourer of Worlds" and "Eater of Planets". Norrin Radd used to guide Galactus to planets so Galactus could eat them. He's single handedly responsible for the destruction of literally billions upon billions of lives. But he's better now, really! Again, this could be movie related since the Surfer will be appearing in the next Fantastic Four movie.
Who do we have next? Sub-Mariner, a.k.a. the speedo king. This is a tough one, because like Captain America, he did help fight the Nazis. In fact, he even teamed up with Captain America (and the Human Torch, no not that Human Torch, the other one). But unlike Captain America, he wasn't doing it because it was the right thing to do, but the Nazis had pissed him off. Since then there have been numerous times where he has tried to invade and conquer the surface-dwellers (that's right, he looks down on us surface-dwellers, the guy's a total racist). Of course when he does invade, he is leading an army of water breathing people onto land to fight a ground war (not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed).
On to the tokens. Our first token character is Spider-Woman. Which Spider-Woman you say? Why the first (and once again current) one, of course. Other than she has breasts, I'm not exactly sure why Spider-Woman is in the list. Ok, granted, she had an animated TV series waaaay back in the day (which was only popular because practically half the episodes guest starred Spider-Man), but if anyone other than me remembers that, I would be amazed. Oh yea, let's not forget she was originally created by and was once a proud card carrying member of HYDRA (a Nazi type organization that gives you an organization you can still hate today and someone for the bad guys to fight). So to recap. Hero: Former terrorist turned hero. Obscure: Very much yes. Breasts: She's in. Seriously, I get the feeling they were hurting for female characters at this point.
And last, and I would say least, we have Elektra. Again, probably only here because 1) she's female and 2) starred in a movie. Other than that, not really the heroic type (she's a trained assassin for pete sake). She's another one of those characters that straddles the good guy / bad guy line. First she was bad, then good, then bad, etc. etc. Currently she's the head of "The Hand" (think HYDRA, but NINJAS!). Again, possibly not the most positive role model you could choose.
Notice anything about all these characters? They're all white (okay, okay, Surfer is shiny, but before he was the Surfer, he was a white alien guy). Where's the diversity? Where's the Power Man loving (wow, that sounds incredibly wrong when you read it)? Ok, they threw in a whopping two female characters. But seriously, for the female characters why couldn't they have gone with Storm and Invisible Woman? Both of those I believe have more mainstream recognition than Spider-Woman and Elektra. Plus if you have Storm, then you get the bonus of her being a minority also. Even She-Hulk would have been preferable to the choices they made. Heck I would have preferred Marvel Girl / Phoenix (although Phoenix did destroy a couple of suns instantly wiping out planets full of life, but hey, Silver Surfer made the list, so why not her). I could on, but I'll spare you. Actually, I can't go one for too much longer, Marvel doesn't really have a lot of mainstream female characters.
Hmmm, I appear to have gone on for quite a bit longer than I intended. And this isn't going to do anything towards getting rid of my image as being the comic book guy either.
4 comments:
I was never a comic book reader as a kid, so these posts are interesting to me because of the sheer magnitude of the information out there.
I looked at the wikipedia link for spiderwoman...and there were 4 characters by that name...???
I can see the draw...kind of like memorizing baseball card stats, must keep intrinsically interested folks busy keeping up with all the super hero current events.
The most troubling tid-bit that I learned here was that there was going to be a Fantastic Four sequel. Don't get me wrong...I love the Fantastic Four. I'm not an avid comic reader by ANY stretch, but I remember really liking their powers and the banter between the characters. But I really hated the film. Granted, I saw it on a plane, but I really wanted to like it. They even threw in a gratuitous towel scene with their hottie dude, but I really was just bored the entire film and just didn't care. Sigh.
But I do agree, by the way, that Storm would have made a much better addition.
Sadly yes, there will be a sequel to FF. Reviews on the first one were mixed apparently, with enough people seeing it and it making enough money worldwide to warrant another one. It only made 50 million over production budget domestically, overseas it killed though by bringing in more than 175 million (which is more than it made domestically, stats from Box Office Mojo.
I fall into the category of not liking the first one. Although, I will admit that the guy playing Torch was great in just about every scene he was in. I don't even like the Torch, and he was hands down the best part of the movie. Since Silver Surfer is in the second one, that means Galactus really should be in it, and they've said they intend to bring back Doom also. So I think the second movie is going to suffer from trying to do too much.
(probably biting off more than i can chew, given the author's creds)
I'm surprised you don't think Iron Man, Silver Surfer, and Namor aren't household names. The Silver Surfer was popular/obscure enough reference to use as spice in Crimson Tide and Ozzie used to sing about Iron Man.
... he's the personification of all that makes the American Dream something great.
That whole Truth: Red, White and Black thing put a stink on the American Dream part of Capt.
Heck, I'm really happy (and quite frankly surprised) they didn't choose Doctor Strange. I never understood why he seemed so popular (so long ago...)
I too would have selected Storm and/or Rogue rather than either of those two, although both of them being X-Men probably is pretty biased. Sue would have been a good choice also.
If it's really people from the Marvel world, I think it would have been cool had they used some choice villians, like the Red Skull, (you already mentioned) Galactus, Venom, or Doctor Doom.
It doesn't seem to me they're too driven by upcoming marketing, otherwise Johnny Blaze would have been a natural choice.
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